Sunday, 1 December 2024

Thoughts on Ben Habib’s Reform UK resignation video

 

(Neil Lock, Reform UK Godalming and Ash Interim Campaigns, 1 December 2024)

(Neil’s Note: This was written as an internal document for the local Reform UK branch. Of which, as the by-line above shows, I have been elected interim campaigns co-ordinator – not to mention secretary as well! But I feel that the need to understand and to critique why Ben Habib chose to leave Reform UK goes way beyond the faithful of one party).

Here is the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP-jcJzGYC0

0:39: “Yes, he [Boris Johnson] committed us to the net zero target.” (As part of the Brexit agreement). This statement appears to be correct:

https://eciu.net/insights/2021/brexit-implications-for-energy-and-climate-change

That was the first I’d heard of this, and I am usually fairly well up in such matters. This was a typically dastardly deed by Johnson.

0:49: “He also committed us to staying in the European Convention of Human Rights.” This also appears to be correct.

The “Contract with You” says nothing about abrogating or re-negotiating any Brexit agreements. Perhaps Nigel’s approach has been pragmatic – first build public support for getting rid of nett zero, the ECHR and everything that goes with them, then highlight the issues in the next general election campaign and build support for abrogating or re-negotiating the treaty.

1:20: “Nigel says that Brexit was done, it’s just that we didn’t take advantage of it.” I haven’t found any hard evidence for this assertion. In May 2023, Nigel did say “Brexit has failed,” which would tend to suggest that Ben’s statement is out of date, at least.

2:00: “Reform UK Limited is a limited company… It has 15 shares, 9 of which are owned by Nigel.” As I recall, those of us who attended the party conference back in September voted to end that structure, and have the party owned by its members. Am I dreaming?

3:33: Richard Tice told Ben Habib that “there would be no deals done with the Tories.” Well, Lee Anderson was one, but the word “the” suggests to me that Richard was rejecting, not deals with individual Tory MPs, but deals with the Tory party as a whole. And rightly so.

5:13: “I realized that it [the party constitution] was a document I had looked at a year and a half before, and rejected.” It seemed pretty decent to me. I wonder if Ben has published his specific criticisms?

5:57: “Well, here we are at the end of November, and actually that conversion [to a company limited by guarantee] hasn’t taken place.” It is stipulated in the constitution that the party is a limited company, but no more is said on what kind of company. It empowers the Board to make Rules on such things. I imagine the conversion ought to be in the hands of the lawyers by now. The wheels of law grind slow. Perhaps Nigel might care to tell us about the progress, and any obstacles he is encountering?

6:18: The constitution… “has not been put to the Electoral Commission for approval.” The original version of the constitution must have been approved when the party first registered as the Brexit party. Whether the latest update has been submitted yet is in the hands of Nigel and Zia.

6:56: “Nigel said he wasn’t against the rapid demographic change… it was the cultural integrity of the United Kingdom that concerned him.” And 7:14: “I don’t see how you can separate them.” I, for one, can separate them. Demographics are about who people are, and where they come from. Culture is about their values, and how they behave.

For me, the real problem with immigration is “legal” immigration, not the boats. And the nub of the problem is that this “legal” immigration has been planned. It looks to me like social engineering by those of all the factions, that are hostile to the culture of the people of the UK.

This is a culture, which is rooted in the Enlightenment and the Industrial Revolution. It is this culture Zia is speaking of, when he talks about “British values.” And it is a culture which I myself have a very high regard for. Thus, I strongly agree with Nigel’s concern about cultural integrity. Though I’m not sure that rapid demographic change is much of a good thing, either. And certainly not when it causes overloading in housing or infrastructure.

7:19: “Nigel said he was not in favour of mass deportations.” If I understand this right:

https://www.gbnews.com/politics/nigel-farage-offers-simple-solution-mass-deportations

(about 21 minutes in) Nigel actually said that mass deportations were politically impossible. That is very different.

8:01:  Ben relates the 20th September incident and Richard Tice’s unfortunate choice of words “that lot” to apply to Tommy Robinson supporters. 8:21: “He regarded them as unpalatable.” Personally, I think they are unpalatable. When Nigel formed the Brexit party and left the Robinson followers and their ilk in charge of the empty shell of UKIP, he attracted quite a number of people (including me) who were not in any way “far right,” but who saw Brexit as an absolute necessity for restoration of any kind of sanity in government. I suspect that the party would lose more members and more votes if it embraced “that lot” than by distancing itself from them.

8:47: “It is about doing the right thing.” Ben makes a lot of noise around this point, but he doesn’t tell us exactly what he means by “the right thing.”

8:53: “Reform seems obsessed with recruiting Tories.” I think the targets for recruitment should be former Tories (and former UKIPpers, too), as well as those whose reaction to the four mainstream parties is “a plague on all their houses.” (I’ve been there, and for a long time, too. My vote for Graham on July 4th was my first vote in a general election since 1987). But they must feel able to align fully with Reform’s goals and policies, and they must disown Tory policies (like “nett zero”) that go against those goals and policies.

9:35: “Surely, there are some good Tories that are worth recruiting. Suella Braverman, for example.” She would certainly not be one of my choices as a “good Tory.” My idea of a good Tory would be someone more like Christopher Chope.

9:44: “Why would you want to open the party up wholesale to defections from the Tory party?” My, cynical, reply to that would be “To help the Tory party along in destroying itself.” Once that is done, we can go after first Labour, then the Lib Dems. There is a secondary potential benefit, that we might get some relatively good ex-Tories.

10:10: “Then we must be a democracy.” I thought that was the point behind the things we are doing here and now – starting up branches, to be controlled by the members. That was why the “gang of four” who constitute the interim branch executive had to be voted on by members at a formal meeting on November 20th.

10:43: “HQ has forbidden the new branches they have set up from having me speak to them.” I’m wondering if they have formally told the branch chairs that? It certainly hasn’t percolated down to me.

11:30: “I can’t resign as a member, because the only members are Richard and Nigel.” This is a rather odd thing to say, considering the constitution has a long section (4) entitled “Party Membership.”

As a more general point, I agree with Doug Hainline’s comment when he says: “We've got to be tolerant of each other. I'm disappointed Mr Habib doesn't seem to understand this. And I wonder to what extent purely personal antagonisms are at the root of his alienation.”

I would also note that Ben Habib was very negative in his response to being removed as deputy leader. Though he must have known that Zia Yusuf coming in was bound to lead to very significant changes like that. I was particularly struck by the comparison with the far more positive response of David Bull, who took the whole thing in his stride, and ended up compering the recent conference, with Nigel calling him a “modern Bob Monkhouse!”


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